Powder coating … I've tried it over every kind of primer I can think of and even on bare metal. 2. The SL350 is going on 2 years and by the time I finally get around to it, both paint and powdercoating will be obsolete and they will have invented something else. I repainted the frame on every single one of them. swedgetube Dirt Newbie Total posts: 1 posted November 15, 2005 09:25 AM We have had modifieds for almost ten years and have had 7 painted and 2 powdered. ha I just realized in your little mock up you had the swing arm on upside down. If it were me, id get it powder coated. Sorry. Wouldn't do frame though. Copyright© ThumperTalk, Inc. - All rights reserved. 3 winners each month! If you just coat over it the job is second class. The charged powder particles adhere to the electrically grounded frame until the powder is heated and fused into a smooth coating in the curing oven. $130 is really nothing compared to the time/work of preparing the frame. Fortunately it's not too tough to give them a new paint job. I was thinking about just painting it as I have all the painting equip. in Canada - West Strip down, powdercoat, and rebuild.... or strip down, paint, rebuild, and then in few of years strip down, powdercoat, and rebuild, etc. Powder coat > paint IMO for mtn bike frames, it’s so much more durable. My biggest problem is if I mix between the two, getting the colors to match. Also visit my website to enter monthly discount drawings. DO IT Lol would look pimp. Which is better and why. If you go that route put a piece of duct tape over your numbers and tape off all races/open tubes. Copyright© ThumperTalk, Inc. - All rights reserved.ThumperTalk® is a registered trademark. (check my posts). Grind off the paint, weld it, repaint and your good. orange frame!!! I had a guy in S C do wheels once, he didn't tape and i spent hours cleaning to be able to put the bearing back in. I've read some debates on powder vs. paint but my question is, do some parts really need powder over paint for longevity, or does it really come down to preference. Especially if you have a frame like the KLR that might need welded from time to time. frame guards are the biggest waste of money IMO. Even though powdercoat holds up well it can still chip etc. And even if you don't, selling it with a powdercoated frame would be easier. When you ride to the gate, people notice. The powder is shot with compressed air and the electric attraction adheres the powder to the steel. Powder coating. Sandblasting and painting is how we all used to do it. The powder is the consistency of flour. Be careful to make sure that any rubber or plastic is removed as these will not withstand the stripping and powder coating process.Please also clean off any grease or excessive dirt. Whilst powder coat does come in every colour, I don't think you will find someone willing to set up just for one item. With powder coating it does look good till you make a repair. The parts are then placed in a curing oven, … Powder coating is the process of applying dry colored pigment with a slight electric charge onto a grounded metal object. It's more expensive, but looks way nicer and lasts longer imo. If you do have all the frame guards, then its basically a win win situation, considering you said your boots will never touch it, so it will keep its finish. I guess alot of frames are aluminum now, so it's not an issue. Have you seen the orange frames of the Muscle Milk team? I have frame guards on my bike and a skid plate, so even with the frame painted my boots etc will never touch the frame with regular paint. Better product and overall cost savings. So the way I view it paint will look just as well as powdercoat and it can be done by me at a fraction of the cost. Id say if you have the cash, then go for powder coating. Recently JR decided to powder coat a vintage mini bike to show off some of our Hot Coat Powder and test the outcome of our metallic powders. Little news paper and some tape.....done in 15 min. Perfect picture of what your bike will look like with orange. Remove grease and road dirt the best you can. You describe two very different processes in your query; painting and powder coating. I want something looking a bit diff, as I will be racing hare scrambles all next yr. Whatever color you go with, if you want a gloss finish, I would suggest paying a little more and get a clear. Painting the frame can be a bit of a hassle with all the things you have to disassemble and take apart, so getting it right the first time can really save you a lot of time and frustration in the future. , KTM's have a powdercoated frame, I am not sure about the others. I was thinking about just painting it as I have all the painting equip. coz. I've had a frame powder coated before and two thoughts: 1. Powder coating is an advanced finishing process that is an eco-friendly alternative to liquid paint. Powder coating achieves a thicker and more consistent finish than you usually get with spray paint. B. BTodoroff Well-Known Member. Do they still come from the factory with paint, or do they powdercoat them now? The 7 were Dirtworks and the paint fell off them so fast, that … Any hints? While I liked the overall look and quality of the powder coat I'm not sure I would do it again, especially on a frame like the KLR. Look at the difference... Yea i think im gonna go powdercoat. Cleaning up cobby welds left by the original construction and adding gussets can be done to give the job some value. I bartered for a bike recently and I was not digging the purple color scheme so I decided to paint it! Weight weenie talk, I know. The powder is applied with spray tools and heated to a chosen surface to form a color coat. Did your buddy happen to get before and after frame weights? I am doing a complete tear down and will either be having the frame painted or powder coated. RE: What is the best paint to use for a motorbike engine/frame without using a powder coat? Unless every can I ever bought was bad, but that seems pretty far-fetched. Put another way, what would you rather do? Most of the marks will rub out as well.. If the race is won by getting into other rider's head pre-race then you're a bike length ahead but otherwise that's pretty much it as far as performance gains. It’s revolutionary in its ease of application and quality of finish, making it perfect for customising It takes me 15 months to strip a bike down to redo the frame. It will usually only increase by another 50%, but well worth it. so yeah go with the pc. But I'm no expert. Primed it. If you need the frame finished quickly, or you don’t have a spare bike to ride, consider taking the job to a professional paintshop for bead blasting followed by powder coating or enamelling. Fortunately the touch up areas are mostly out of site, by the nature of the process. I painted the frame black on my rm and it has held up great and only wore away where my boots rub, but that takes 5 minutes to touch up. If you plan on keeping the bike a while, I think powdercoating makes much more sense. Present your bike frame totally stripped of all brackets and fittings. Even though most good shops will do it, it is a good idea along with reminding the sand guy of them. Then I painted it my favorite color with automotive paint and finally coated it with 5 coats of automotive clearcoat. Paint, Powder coat, Anodize, or Plate a bike frame? Its been 8 years so I am sand blasting, primer and painting mine again.....yep....PJ1 rattle can........I can do a quick touch up when I need to. It would be a waste to paint again. Spoke (Cast/Billet) $85: Fat Bob: $250.00: Alum. Numerous ingredients can make the powder used for this process, such as acrylic, polyester, epoxy and polyurethane. But what about steel framed bikes? Just refinished a dirt bike frame in Murderous Black. I have used Epoxy rattle can paint for over 20 years on my dirt bike frames. Remove bearings. thatd be siiiiick, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. In a process called electrostatic spray deposition, a specialized spray gun applies electrically charged powder to grounded parts. It takes me more that 15 minutes just to remove the seat. We (equipment mfg) switched from paint to powdercoating years ago. I have all black plastics, black and silver graphics with some orange. 0. By In order to end up with a professional looking paint job I stripped all the paint off the frame to bare metal. I have had a few dirt bike frames powder coated. This Site Might Help You. We just use paint for the ease of repair. I've tried the Appliance Epoxy in rattle cans 3 or 4 different times over the years and it always fisheyes on me. Just a few tools, some spray paint, and a bit of time. Raw steel Valencia frames waiting to be coated After powder application the frame is baked at nearly 400º F, turning the dry pigment into a uniform coating that is beautiful and highly durable. Contact Bob for your powder coating project. Paint or powder coat. Sub Frame: $35.00: Narrow Glide (Upper/Lower) $40: Gas Cap (non ratchet) $25.00: Wide Glide (Upper/Lower) $45: Gas Tank: Wheels ($/ea) Sport FXR: $200.00: Alum. Photos from start to finish. Windridge Coatings grit blasts with aluminium oxide which will crunch under load, we do not use steel grit which will embed and lead to striping a thread. If you decide to cut off a bracket or weld something on down the road, you can't just touch up powder. Powder coating gives your dirt bike or ATV an outstandingly slick stylish look. But now that powdercoating is so readily available and affordable, I for one, won't be painting anymore. The process: 1. Discussion in 'Other Service and Maintenance' started by marshall1225, Nov 10, 2013. I have restored a total of fourteen motorcycles in the last six years. I mean come on! 8 years ago I’ve always wondered how much difference a powder coat job would add to the frame’s weight. If you're going to all the trouble of stripping down a bike for repainting, powdercoating would be my only option. Powdercoat!It looks awesome! All held up very well. I finally had to sell the SL175 because I knew I'd never get it done. GoldenGoose. The BIG advantage of paint is that it can very easily be touched up. It makes a world of diffrence in looks and durability. It depends on the finish and how much work you want to … The project this time around was a 1977 Montgomery Ward Model #57507 mini bike that was in the process of a full restoration. Name Brian Jul 12, 2011 #11 RobertHaas said: Cleaning up cobby welds left by the original construction and adding gussets can be … Paint a Bike Frame: Bikes get scratched up and start looking pretty ragged. It takes me more than 15 minutes just to FIND the masking tape in my garage , Nothing wrong with paint. I found I had to go round with a brush and black killrust and touch it up. you would think that if you have a skid plate and frame guards your frame wont get messed up, but it does. The walk-in oven: Powder coating is used on fences, car chassis and other large structures Of the many … I have a little powder set up in my garage and powder most parts. ATV frame painting can indeed be an affordable means of freshening up a tired-looking quad. Dirt bike frames suffer scratches and metal altering damage. http://www.eastwood.com/review/produ.../category/246/. Paint or Powder coating: Bike Chat Forums Index-> The Workshop-> The Workshop But who am I kidding? Powder coating is a color-finishing technique in which powder is used in lieu of paint. Personally, it looks like a$$ to me as its waaay too much orange but if its what you want, for sure take a look to confirm your decision. From what I understand of powder coating, it is basically Solid paint in a powder form. I've seen some that still look like paint and I've seen others that sure looked more like powdercoating. I was actually going to go with a KTM orange frame. Frames come from the factorys with paint........and my bikes always look like new. I know powdercoat will hold up great and I got a quote of $130 for my frame which is a great price. I have frame guards on my bike and a skid plate, so even with the frame painted my boots etc will never touch the frame with regular paint. Back when I had a yz450f I painted the feame and it came out great. I have a KTM 520 and will be painting it over the winter. When it comes to liquid painting a frame, we’ve had success using variations of the following technique: Strip the ATV down to the frame i would still go with powder, $130 is a great price i woulldnt pass up. The powder used in the process is a mixture of finely ground particles of pigment and resin, which is electrostatically sprayed onto the frame of our bicycles. That being said I am about to do my Superglide frame and am on the fence also. Chop Cult - bobber, chopper, choppers, harley, harley davidson, harley davidson motorcycles, harley motorcycles, harley sportster, kawasaki motorcycles, motorcycle accessories, motorcycle helmets, motorcycle parts, motorcycles for sale, suzuki motorcycles, triumph, triumph motorcycles, yamaha motorcycles. DoctorRzed, August 19, 2009 in General Dirt Bike Discussion. Powder coating has emerged over the past few decades, and uses an electrostatic charge -- like the one that makes a cat's hair stand on end when you pet it -- to attract particles of a powder to the object to be painted. The powder is sprayed on. Even though powdercoat holds up well it can still chip etc. Looking to paint or powder the frame, lower legs, trees, swing arm, and several small pieces on the bike. I think its damn close to being as hard as powder coat and wears really well. I know alot of other products we buy, like trailers for instance, are powdercoated now. im pretty sure the frames come powder coated from the factory. Powder is the only way. It doesn't get into all the nooks and crannies. (I'm asking, not challenging). Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > marshall1225 Member. Why Powder Coat? To do it the frame is sand blasted till its spotlessly clean, then the powder is applied by some kind of static electricity set-up to make it stick, once it is fully coated the frame is baked in an oven to melt the powder and stick nice and evenly to the metal. I know the stuff works, as I've seen it on other people's stuff, so i must be doing something wrong. Any opinions on color? Powder coating is easier as you dont have to do the work yourself but it is also expensive and gives a nice finish, if you want to strip the whole frame back and paint it, it also gives a nice finish but there is alot of prep work to put into it. Threads. 11 0 0. I know it's pink:eek: , but this one was done 4 years ago, with 5+ multi day trips a year. I had a couple of sets and all they did was dig into my frame and traping water and dirt to scratch it up and wear the paint off. Also the engine is currently black would like to have chrome accents on edge of fins and either have engine painted … Spray.Bike is a groundbreaking range of bicycle-specific colour coating designed for both amateur and professional use.Spray.Bike paint is a dry matte powder-coating that doesn’t drip, dribble or misbehave in any way. Prior to delivering your frames – Remove wheels, fittings, bearings etc. How to prepare your bike frame for powder coating. 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